Choux is an indie dream pop duo featuring longtime friends and collaborators Lizzie Carolan and Jordan Gatesmith. They are best known for their lush soundscapes and ethereal melodies that carry listeners to another dimension. They released their debut EP, Super Moon, in November, 2020.

Big Sonic Heaven contributor Rick Bourgoise recently had a really fun conversation with the duo about their unique process for combining songs from two different parts of North America, comparisons to the Cocteau Twins and future music that includes lyrics in French.

The transcript of this conversation has been edited for length and clarity.


Big Sonic Heaven: Your EP has been out for about six months now. From what I can see, it’s getting good traction. Is it meeting your expectations? Are you happy?

Lizzie Carolan: The project started from an idea many years ago. It’s just been so exciting to have it out in the world. Honestly, I hadn’t even thought about what would happen after the release. This has all been a pleasant surprise.

Jordan Gatesmith: I was kind of shocked. It was just cool. I feel like we’ve communicated with a lot of people we never would have communicated with had this never come out. It’s always really interesting when you put something out and see who gravitates towards it.  We’ve talked to a lot of really interesting, cool people after releasing it.

BSH: Lizzie, you mentioned it’s been a long time coming. Take me through that. You both were in a band previously together as I understand, and decided to break out on your own. What prompted you to leave the band and create your own venture?

Jordan: That was years ago.

Lizzie: This has been kind of a long slow burn process. Jordan and I were both in a band called Total Babe way back in the day, like 2009. We were high school kids. I left and went to school in Montreal, where I still am today. Jordan went off and did his whole Howler project. I’d been writing some songs all throughout high school and at the university. My whole thing is 30-second demos that I would send to Jordan. Jordan and I had been talking about this for a number of years. 

Jordan: We’ve always been talking about making music together after Total Babe. We’d stay in touch. We talked on the phone. We’d see each other over holidays and stuff. This was always something we wanted to do.

Lizzie: Exactly. I think the big catalyst or first wave of this actually happening was when I was out in L.A. in 2018 visiting Jordan, when he lived there. I played him some of the demos.

Jordan: I lost my mind. I was so excited.

Lizzie: We recorded some stuff when we were out there, and that’s what got the process really started. But, the pandemic was like the final kick in the pants, I think.

BSH: What took so long?

Lizzie: For me, having the confidence that this was music that could be made. Like I said, everything I did started out as 30-second clips. I wasn’t really sure how to form it into longer songs.  As I talked to Jordan more and got more experience songwriting, it kind of fleshed out.  Jordan’s been a huge help in that too.

Jordan: Lizzie is an absolutely incredible songwriter. I’ve watched her completely up her game over the years. She’s always been so talented at melody and ideas. We always would send each other songs. It started off with her sending me a 30-second clip. This still happens from time to time. Lizzie’s were always absolutely brilliant 30-second ideas, but then they’d just be done. Through the process of making this record, I watched her become more confident in her own compositional skills . We started with “Super Moon,” which started off as a 30-second idea that we expanded on, filled in and made into what it is now. At the end of the record, we had a song “On a Sunday” that Lizzie actually wrote completely by herself from the ground up. It’s been a wild ride.

Super Moon