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Interview with
Dylan & Sarah from TAllies

By Danielle Hennes

Sarah and Dylan from Tallies graciously took time out of their busy fall tour schedule to chat with me on the phone for a bit. Audio and transcript are below. 

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Danielle:
Hello. This is Danielle here for Big Sonic Heaven Radio. I’m here today on the phone with Sarah and Dylan from the Toronto Band Talley. How are you guys doing today? Good. How are you? I’m doing pretty good. Thanks for asking. Thanks so much, you guys, for taking time out today from your busy schedule to chat with me.

Danielle:
First thing I want to ask, I’m really curious, where does the name Talley’s come from? Like, what is the connection to that word for you as artists?

Sarah:
Well, we visually like the look of it. And somebody recommended a name to us that was not the same word, but it was a similar word. And then it just kind of led to Talley’s and we just thought it was simpl, sleek and clean.

Dylan:
There’s not really any meaning behind it, but the sound of it, we really liked. OK, all right. Interesting.

Sarah:
We could make up a story. We don’t want to.

Dylan:
Someone made a joke. It was, you should call your band Talley’s, like as in like tall cans of beer, but they like spelled it wrong, like Tallies. And then we’re like, oh, that’s actually pretty good.

Danielle:
Okay, that’s cool. I know you’re currently out on tour and I had the chance to meet you out here where I am in Michigan and then actually a few weeks later in Cleveland. And like what a couple amazing shows like they were so good and I’m such a fan now. And I know you’ve been touring quite a bit over the past couple years playing various festivals and over in the UK. How do you guys handle traveling so much and being away from home for so long?

Dylan:
Oh, that’s a good question. I mean me personally, I love it. I live for it. I love traveling. I like trying the foods in different cultures or like, you know, trying to really get to know the city as quick as possible. And it’s always impossible, but trying to figure it out on the road is, I think, one of the best things you can do in life is, you know, exploring the world.

Sarah:
And Dylan really likes to discover all the cuisine and so that keeps us really busy.

Danielle:
I saw on Instagram there was a giant slab of meat from some gas station that you had.

Dylan:
Yeah, we actually didn’t end up buying that, but we bought a little piece of jerky, which was pretty good.

Sarah:
Yeah, but the amount of jerky that we have going on in the van is insane.

Danielle:
What kind of stuff are you eating on tour? Like when you’re in the hotels, are you trying to eat on a budget or do you eat out a lot? How does that work?

Dylan:
We kind of bounce back and between budget and like experience. So if we’re in like a city that is known for some like good food, then we’ll like kind of go after that. But if maybe, you know, we have to kind of pick and choose cause yeah, like we can’t afford to just like eat like great every time. So, you know, yesterday we got like two little Caesar hot and readies for like 13 bucks and that fed all of us. So that was really great. And in Seattle, we might get some chicken teriyaki.

Danielle:
There’s a time and place for everything, right?

Sarah:
Dylan brought a rice cooker.

Danielle:
Oh, that’s a good idea for a hotel, for sure.

Sarah:
And then we also have a air fryer, but we have yet to use it.

Danielle:
And the hotels sometimes have refrigerators, so that’s good. Yeah.

Danielle:
Sarah, I love how honest and candid you are writing lyrics that deal with depression, like in “No Dreams” and or feeling really vulnerable, like in that song “Heaven’s Touch.” Do you ever have to emotionally decompress after a show or is it like more cathartic to just be able to openly express that and sing it and just belt it out?

Sarah:
It’s extremely cathartic. It actually it’s better. I used to try and write in diaries and journals to get my emotions and feelings out and it’s never been as cathartic as just singing and belting it and it just feels like the most vulnerable personal way of releasing and it’s just like a cleanse every every show.

Danielle:
I really really love that song “No Dreams Affairs”. It’s such a great song. It’s definitely one of my favorites. So we’re going to listen to it now after 2022 album Patina. Here’s No Dreams Affairs by Talley.

Danielle:
Okay, so I’m a huge Cocteau Twins fan, and Dylan, I know you are too. So excuse me just for a second while I kind of geek out here. You’ve got to tell me about the moment that you found out that Simon Raymond from the Cocteau Twins was making it his mission to sign you to his label. How did that go?

Dylan:
It was a really long drawn out process like we had met him at the Bella Union vinyl shop that they have at like the headquarters in Brighton when we were on tour. So we had met him there and I had his contact after that. I was pretty nervous meeting him but he’s like the most lovely human being you could ever meet like especially if he’s your hero. So we kind of kept in touch and then we were, and then eventually we had some songs to show him maybe like a year later. And so I was able to email him and send them the half of the record that became Patina and he like absolutely loved it. And then he was coming down to a festival called New Colossus in New York. And he was going to come see us live because he’s never signed a band without seeing them live. So he was going to come down, see us live. And like, you know, he was prepared to sign us, but the pandemic happened, and so he never ended up coming, and our tour got canceled, and we ended up just having like a bunch of awesome chats over the pandemic, and he ended up signing us anyway. So I think we might’ve been the first band he signed without seeing us live. And we do rock live, so. You know, I- Yeah, we do. And he believed me. So, so he signed us and, and that was it. It was a dream come true. It’s, it’s pretty crazy when you kind of make music ripping, well maybe not ripping off, but, you know, so inspired, like using all the same ingredients and then that person is like, to get behind what you did from being inspired by that, it’s a pretty, pretty full circle, crazy thing.

Danielle:
It’s amazing. I know I don’t know you very well, but I’m so proud of you. And I’m so happy for you guys. It’s so cool.

Dylan & Sarah:
Thank you. Yeah.

Danielle:
How has life changed or has it changed for you guys since being signed to Bella Union?

Dylan:
Um, I’m not sure how much it’s really like changed, but it is a serious stamp of approval. That’s for sure. Um, we’ve kind of always done better in the UK. So, um, we kind of had something going there already. And then, I mean, this kind of just like pushed it up even more. So, it’s kind of hard to think, but it’s been like a growing thing and that’s been part of the growth for sure.

Danielle:
So between the two albums, another song that really stands out for me is Trains in Snow. And I really love how it opens with those guitar strums, and then it’s kind of echoed between the first chorus and the second verse with that like dramatic pause.Can you tell me a little bit about the writing process of that song, both lyrically and how you came up with the composition of that song?

Dylan:
That’s a good question. I have a feeling that that one was pretty quick. I mean, either you or I probably flushed out, maybe Sarah came up with like the basic idea and then we kind of like flushed out together a few other chord changes and stuff, and then we brought it to the band and kind of came up with more of an exciting arrangement, I’m sure. Keane came up with the stops and those dramatic pauses, and I couldn’t say anything about the lyrics, but I know that Sarah would have been freestyling the lyrics for a long time before actually cementing them into place. But it was pretty quick, I think that song really came together so quick. I can’t really remember anything specific about it.

Sarah:
We were in that jam space that’s now torn down. It was in our house. And I remember we were showing it to the guys and there was a window in the jam space to the train tracks, the GO train in Toronto. And I also just remember it was snowing, obviously, but I remember seeing the train go by and it just kind of reminded me because I do travel a lot to go visit my parents and I take a train there. And so I always listen to music at the window and I look out and watch the scenery. And so it just kind of brought me to that place and that feeling. And so that song is really just about that feeling of like traveling to go to your home.

Danielle:
Aw, I love that. I love that song so much and I love it live. It’s just such a such a vibe and I just I love it so much. So we’re going to play that for our listeners now. So from their 2019 self-titled release, here is Trains and Snow from Talley.

Danielle:
What do you guys think of this recent sort of rebirth of Shoegaze? And do you think it’s opened up space for bands like yourself to be successful?

Dylan:
Yeah, it has been been good, because like, I don’t feel like we are like a proper Shoegaze band, but we definitely have moments of it, especially in like trains and snow and stuff like that. It has been great. And we’ve been more affiliated with it too like our booking agent Matt from Deserta. He’s like all the bands he’s booking are shoegaze. So we actually feel kind of more a part of that world. You know, we just did some shows with Ariel and we’re kind of, and then we’re, you know, we’re going to places that like Blushing, we’re just playing and…we’re kind of talking to the people there and they were like, I was at the Blushing show, then I came to your show. So it does, I can really feel it now, especially on this tour more than ever.

Danielle:
Yeah, I caught you guys with Ariel and that was a really good bill. It was a good show to, it was just a really good vibe too.

Dylan:
Yeah, they’re incredible. Oh my God, that show was so incredible. My ears are still ringing and I don’t even care.

Danielle:
Aside from your musical heroes, do you guys find inspiration from other areas of your life? Or are there musical inspirations that, you know, aside from the obvious, like we know that you guys love the Cocteau Twins, and there’s probably some inspiration from the Sundays. Are there other musical inspirations that would come as a surprise to us?

Dylan:
Yeah, I think so. I think like one thing that maybe is like not obvious, like Memento, when we were like working on the production of that song, I was watching like a hip hop documentary. I forget what it was called, but it was like Shad, like the Canadian rapper was doing it. So like we did put an 808 bass drop in the chorus. So that, you know, that did make an influence and I don’t think you’re really gonna hear rap music in there but you know that’s a little thing from that. I think we’re pretty like all over the place with our influences.

Sarah:
Vocally for Wound Up Tight I personally pulled a little bit from Madonna. I forget what song it is. Ray of Light. Yeah. It’s like a kind of like a scale run that she does in that. So it’s just a scale. Everybody can use it. I channel her a little bit.

Danielle:
Now I’m going to have to listen to those songs and pick those things out.

Dylan:
Yeah.

Danielle:
If all your Tally’s dreams came true, what would that look like? Like where do you see your guys, where do you see yourself in five or 10 years?

Sarah:
Being able to live off the stream that we’re doing. Being able to just not have to work other jobs and just make a living off of this so we can just keep doing it as full force.

Dylan:
Yeah and just to be like heard you know like I feel like it’s really hard to get heard in this world without doing something stupid on TikTok or something and I don’t really want to do that. I don’t like I could probably do it but I don’t know it’s can’t get into that space. So my dream is that people just hear our music. I think if everybody just heard it, enough people would like it. And so, yeah, hopefully we just don’t have to do anything embarrassing to get that to happen.

Sarah:
Just about the music.

Danielle:
Well, I think you guys are amazing. I am really looking forward. I think you guys said you might be coming back through Detroit. Where can our listeners find you next? I think you got a show coming up tomorrow.

Dylan:
Yeah, we’re in Seattle tomorrow, then Portland the next day, and then Ark. Yeah. California, then San Francisco, Ventura with the Ocean Blue, San Diego with the Ocean Blue, and then Los Angeles and Long Beach. So yeah, we have eight more shows on the West Coast, which is really exciting.

Danielle:
And this is kind of not sure when this is going to exactly air. So it’s kind of the week of November 11th through the 18thish kind of.

Dylan:
Yeah. So, yeah, exactly. Okay. All right. Well, you know, guys, I just wanted to thank you again for taking time to do this. I’ve really enjoyed getting to know you guys and I’m, I’m really looking forward to seeing you again and I wish you guys all the best on your tour and, and, and, and going forward, I’m sure you’re going to go far.

Dylan:
Thanks so much. We really appreciate the support.

Sarah:
Yeah, thanks for having us on here.

Danielle: My pleasure. Truly, thank you so much.

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